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Hi there, it's Natsuki from TOKYO VEG LIFE!
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こんにちは、TOKYO VEG LIFEのなつきです
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konnichiha, TOKYO VEG LIFE no natsuki desu
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I interviewed a polyglot who speaks 20 languages
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今日は、日本語を含めて、なんと
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kyou wa, nihongo o fukumete, nanto
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including Japanese - Steve Kaufmann
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20か国語を話されるSteve Kaufmannさんに
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20 kakokugo o hanasare ru Steve Kaufmann san ni
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the other day so I'm sharing it here today
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インタビューを先日行いましたので その様子をお届けします
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intabyū o senjitsu okonaimashita node sono yousu o o todoke shimasu
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Steve is a former diplomat from Canada
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Steveさんは、カナダ出身の元外交官で
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Steve san wa, kanada shusshin no moto gaikoukan de
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Using his experience of learning multi languages
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語学習得の経験を生かして
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gogaku shūtoku no keikenwoikashite
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he's developing an online community
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LingQというYouTubeやオンラインの
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LingQ to i u YouTube ya onrain no
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around his service LingQ and YouTube channel
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コミュニティ作りを進めている方です
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komyuniti tsukuri o susumete iru kata desu
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In this interview, he shares his view on learning languages
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そんなSteveさんに、仕事のためだけではなく
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sonna Steve san ni, shigoto no tame dake de wa naku
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not just for work but also for enjoyment
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人生を楽しく生きるための語学学習のすすめ
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jinsei o tanoshiku ikiru tame no gogaku gakushū no su sume
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and for a fulfilling life (was talking about)
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について語っていただきました
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ni tsuite katatte ita dakimashita
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I have some announcement at the end of the video
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動画の最後にお知らせがありますので
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douga no saigo ni oshirase ga arimasu no de
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so please watch till the end!
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是非最後まで見てください
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zehi saigo made mite kudasai
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Let's now dive into the interview!
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Let's now dive into the interview!
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Let 's now dive into the interview!
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First, I understand that you
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まず最初に、Steveさんは17歳まで英語しか
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mazu saisho ni, Steve san wa 17 sai made eigo shi ka
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only spoke English until you were 17
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英語しか喋れなかったと聞いていますが
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eigo shi ka shabe renakatta to kīteimasu ga
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I grew up in Montreal, Canada
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カナダのモントリオールだったんですよね
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kanada no montoriōru datta n desu yo ne
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At school, I was learning French since I was a small kid
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学校では、フランス語も小さい時から勉強していた
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gakkou de wa, furansugo mo chīsai toki kara benkyou shiteita
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but was I able to converse in French? No
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だけど、フランス語で会話できるかと言うと、できなかった
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dakedo, furansugo de kaiwa dekiru ka to iu to, dekinakatta
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There are many Japanese who have been studying English
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日本の方も義務教育でずっと英語を勉強しているけど
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nihon no hou mo gimukyouiku de zutto eigo o benkyou shite iru kedo
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Text-2
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at school for a long time but can't speak English at all
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英語が全然喋れない方がほとんどだと思う
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eigo ga zen zen shabe renai kata ga hotondo da to omou
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Also foreigners who live in Japan, they can
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日本にいる外国の方も、英語が喋れると
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nihon ni iru gaikoku no kata mo, eigo ga shabe reru to
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get by and do business with just English so
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生活も何となくできるし、ビジネスは問題ないので
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seikatsu mo nantonaku dekiru shi, bijinesu wa mondai nai node
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many choose not to study Japanese
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わざわざ日本語を勉強しない人が多いと思う
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wazawaza nihongo o benkyou shinai hito ga ōi to omou
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Yes, I would say the majority
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大部分ですよね
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daibubun desu yo ne
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So, why did you choose to learn different languages
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Steveさんはどうしていろいろな国に行く度に
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Steve san wa dou shite iro iro na kuni ni iku tabini
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every time you went to a new country?
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その国の言葉を覚えようと思ったのですか？
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sono kuni no kotoba o oboe you to omotta no desu ka?
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I moved to Japan in 1971 and
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日本に着いたのは1971年
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nihon ni tsuita no wa 1971 nen
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before that I was in Hong Kong as a diplomat
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その前は香港にいたんです、外交官として
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sono mae wa honkon ni itan de su, gaikoukan toshite
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There I studied Chinese
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そこで中国語を勉強しました
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sokode chūgokugo o benkyou shimashita
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So I was able to read few thousand Chinese characters
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なので、漢字も何千と読めたわけですから
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nanode, kanji mo nanzen to yometa wake desukara
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and for me, studying Japanese wasn't so hard
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日本語はそれほど難しくなかった
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nihongo wa sorehodo muzukashikunakatta
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No matter where you go, when you travel even now
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どこの国でも、今でも旅行すればやはり
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doko no kuni demo, imademo ryokou sureba ya hari
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it's not very pleasant when you don't know the language
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言葉を知らないと非常に不愉快ですよ
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kotoba o shiranai to hijouni fuyukai desu yo
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You can't read the signs, you can't talk to people
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読めないとか、普通の人と話ができないと
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yomenai toka, futsū no hito to hana shi ga dekinai to
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Also in Japan, for business
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それと同時に、日本の場合は、ビジネスは
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soreto doujini, nihon no bāi wa, bijinesu wa
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Yes, with trading houses and big companies, English is fine
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商社なら英語で通じるけれど、大企業とか
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shousha nara eigo de tsūjiru keredo, daikigyou toka
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but for me, I was dealing with wood
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ただ、僕の場合は木材だったんですよね
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tada, boku no bāi wa mokuzai datta ndesu yone
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so in that case, I work with regular small and medium companies
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その場合は、一般中小企業を相手にして
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sono bāi wa, ippan chūshoukigyou o aite ni shite
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If I can make relationships with suppliers
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問屋さんとか、いろいろな人と関係を作れば
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tonya san toka, iroiro na hito to kankei o tsukureba
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I can do more interesting work
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もっと面白い仕事ができるわけです
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motto omoshiroi shi kotogadekiru wake desu
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Business gets more interesting so
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もっと面白い商売ができるわけですから
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motto omoshiroi shoubai ga dekiru wake desukara
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Also, I'm genuinely interested in languages
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それで、僕自身も言葉に興味があるんですよ
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sorede, boku jishin mo kotoba ni kyoumi ga aru ndesu yo
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so if I'm going to a country, I would study the language
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その国に行けば必ず勉強しますよ
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sono kuni ni ikeba kanarazu benkyou shimasu yo
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I actually study even if I don't go to their country
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行かなくても勉強するから —なるほど
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ikanakute mo benkyou suru kara —naruhodo
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But for most people, like foreigners living in Japan
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だけど、大部分の人が、外人が日本に住んでいても
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dakedo, daibubun no hito ga, gaijin ga nihon ni sundeite mo
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they can survive with just English and also in Canada, immigrants
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英語で生活できるし、カナダでもいろいろな移民が
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eigo de seikatsu dekiru shi, kanada demo iroiro na imin ga
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if they're Chinese, they stick with friends and peers in China
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中国人なら中国人で、同じ中国人の友達
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chūgokujin nara chūgokujin de, onaji chūgokujin no tomodachi
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so they don't really try hard to learn the language
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仲間で生活できるから、あまり一生懸命勉強しない
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nakama de seikatsu dekiru kara, amari i isshōkenmei benkyou shinai
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You speak 20 languages and with that many languages
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20か国語も喋れるということですが
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20 kakokugo mo shabe reru to iu koto desu ga
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don't you get confused in your brain?
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たくさん言葉を喋れると、頭の中で混乱することはない？
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takusan kotoba o shabereru to, atama no naka de konran suru koto wa nai?
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For me, my third language was Spanish
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私の場合は、third languageがスペイン語で
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wa tashi no bāi wa, third language ga supeingo de
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and I learned Chinese as the fourth language
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その後に、fourth languageで中国語を勉強した時に
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sono ato ni, fourth language de chūgokugo o benkyou shita toki ni
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At that time, when I tried to speak Chinese, Spanish would come out
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中国語を喋ろうとするとスペイン語がでてきてしまう
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chūgokugo o shabe rou to suru to supeingo ga dete kite shimau
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Don't you have experience like that?
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ことがあったんですけど、そういう混乱はないですか？
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koto ga atta n desu kedo, sou iu konran wa nai desu ka?
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Yes, definitely
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当然あります
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touzen arimasu
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But if you don't take the language you learned up to a certain level
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習った言葉をある程度の水準まで持っていって
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naratta kotoba o aruteido no suijun made motte i tte
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it's easy to get confused
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あげないと混乱しやすいですよ
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agenai to konran shi ya sui desu yo
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When you study, you listen a lot, you read a lot
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勉強するのも、たくさん聞いたり、たくさん読んだり
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benkyou suru no mo, takusan kītari, takusan yondari
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then your brain learns and gets used to it
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要は、脳が勉強する、脳が慣れるんですよ
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you wa, nou ga benkyou suru, nou ga nareru n desu yo
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Text-4
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You need to give enough stimulus and experience
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十分な刺激、十分な経験
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jū bun na shigeki, jū bun na keiken
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It's essential to gain experience with the new language
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新しい言葉に関する経験を与えないとダメなんです
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atarashī kotoba ni kansuru keiken o ataenai to dame nandesu
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If you just study vocabulary or few
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語彙表だけ勉強したとか、文法のいくつかの
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goihyou dake benkyou shita toka, bunpou no ikutsuka no
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grammatical rules, you brain won't learn
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ルールを勉強しただけではななかなか
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rūru o benkyou shita dake dehana nakanaka
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Your brain won't remember, it's impossible
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脳がなかなか習いません、覚えません、無理ですよ
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nou ga nakanaka naraimasen, oboemasen, muri desu yo
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You need to listen a lot, read a lot then naturally
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たくさん聞いて読んで、その中から脳が自ずと
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takusan kīte yonde, sononaka kara nou ga onozuto
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your brain starts making rules
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ルールを作るんですよ、そういう意味では
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rūru o tsukuru ndesu yo, souiu imi deha
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If you get accustomed like that, for example now
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そういう慣れがあるから、今例えば私はあまり
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souiu nare ga aru kara, ima tatoeba watashi hā ma ri
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I don't speak Japanese that much but I don't get confused
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日本語は話ししませんが、あまり混乱しない
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nihongo wa hanashi shimasen ga, amari konran shinai
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But with Korean, it's similar to Japanese but
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だけど、韓国語の場合は日本語に似ているけど
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dakedo, kankokugo no bāi wa nihongo ni niteiru kedo
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they are different so sometimes when I try to say something
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似ていないということで、時々韓国語で言おうと
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niteinai toiu koto de, tokidoki kankokugo de iou to
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in Korean, Japanese comes out - that happens
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思ったら、日本語が出てくるとか、そういうことはあります
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omottara, nihongo ga detekuru toka, souiu koto wa arimasu
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What was the language you learned most recently?
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一番最後に、最近習得した語学、言葉は何ですか？
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ichi ban saigo ni, saikin shūtoku shita gogaku, kotoba wa nande suka?
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I'm studying Arabic and Persian at the same time now
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今、アラブ語とペルシャ語を同時に勉強してます
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ima, arabu go to perushago o doujini benkyou shite masu
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Wow I hear Arabic is really hard
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アラブ語はすごく難しいと聞きます
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arabu go hasu goku muzukashī to kikimasu
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Initially, I started with Arabic, Persian and Turkish
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最初は、アラブ語、ペルシャ語、トルコ語
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saisho wa, arabu go, perusha go, toruko go
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learning 3 languages at the same time
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3つの言葉を同時に勉強し始めたわけです
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3 tsuno kotoba o doujini benkyou shi hajimeta wake desu
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I have a video on that on YouTube
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それに関連したビデオもYouTubeチャンネルで出した
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soreni kanren shita bideo mo YouTube channeru de dashita
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how my Arabic, Turkish and Persian are
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アラブ語、トルコ語、ペルシャ語、3か月後
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arabu go, toruko go, perusha go, 3 kagetsu nochi
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after 3 months of learning, conversing with
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こういう程度ですよ、というオンラインのtutorとの
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kou iu teido desu yo, toiu onrain no tu to r to no
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Text-5
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my online tutors
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話しのビデオも出しましたが
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hanashi no bideo mo dashimashita ga
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But I still need to listen a lot more and
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しかし、やはりまだたくさん聞かなくちゃならない
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shi kashi, ya hari mada takusan kikanakucha naranai
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being able to speak a little is not enough
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だから、少しだけ言えるだけでは足らない
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dakara, sukoshi dake ieru dake deha taranai
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I'm listening to podcast in Arabic all the time
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アラブ語のポッドキャストを今聞いています
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arabu go no poddokyasuto o ima kīteimasu
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because I still don't understand. Until you become
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まだ分からないから。そういう本物のコンテンツを
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mada bun kara naika ra. souiu honmono no kontentsu o
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able to understand such "real" content, how much you can speak
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理解できるまでには、どれだけ言えるかというのは
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rikai dekiru madeni wa, doredake ieru ka toiunoha
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is not that important, in my opinion
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そう大切ではないと私は思っています
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sou taisetsu dehanai to watashi wa omotteimasu
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When I study a language, first thing is understanding
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僕は、言葉を勉強する時に、まず理解
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boku wa, kotoba o benkyou suru tokini, mazu rikai
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Understanding is key so vocabulary comes first
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理解がまず一、だから語彙、理解
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rikai gama zu ichi, dakara goi, rikai
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Vocabulary is the most important first step
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それが語彙表、vocabulary、それが一番大切
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sorega goihyou, vocabulary, sorega ichi ban taisetsu
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I hope you don't mind me asking, how old are you now?
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失礼ですが、Steveさんは今おいくつですか？
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shitsurei desuga, Steve san wa ima oi kutsu desuka?
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I'm 74. 74!
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今74です －74歳！
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ima 74 desu －74 sai!
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You're 74 years old and learning Arabic and Persian
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74歳で新しくアラブ語、ペルシャ語を勉強していると
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74 sai de atarashiku arabu go, perushago o benkyou shiteiru to
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I wrote a book when I was 60
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60歳の時に本を書いたんですよ
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60 sai no tokini moto o kaita ndesu yo
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At that time, I knew 9 languages
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その時は、9つの言葉を話せたわけです
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sonotoki wa, 9 tsuno kotoba o hanaseta wake desu
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so I wrote a book on that
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それについての本を書いた
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soreni tsuite no moto o kaita
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In 14 years, between 60 years of age to 74
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今の14年間の間に、60歳から74歳までの間に
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ima no 14 nen ainoma ni, 60 sai kara 74 sai made no aidani
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I learned 11 languages more
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さらに11か国語を勉強したわけです
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sarani 11 kakokugo o benkyou shita wake desu
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But it's not that I can speak all of them fluently
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だけど、全部流暢に話せるかと言うと、そうではない
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dakedo, zenbu ryūchou ni hanaseru ka toiuto, sou dehanai
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Among them, my Russian and Ukrainian are pretty good
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そのうち、ロシア語はまあまあ流暢、ウクライナ語も
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sonouchi, roshiago wa māmā ryūchou, ukurainago mo
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Text-6
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but my Korean can improve more
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韓国語はもうひとつ、とかね
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kankokugo wa mou hito tsu, toka ne
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But my goal is...
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しかし、目標はいろいろな新しい言葉を
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shi kashi, mokuhyou wa iroiro na atarashī kotoba o
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to discover new languages. For example
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発見するというか、その言葉を、今の例えば
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hakken suru toiuka, sono kotoba o, ima no tatoeba
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my Arabic and Persian are still not that great but
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アラブ語、ペルシャ語の僕の程度はあまり良くないけど
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arabu go, perushago no boku no teido hā mari yokunai kedo
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Arabs become more alive to me
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それでも、アラブ人が生きてくるんですよ
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soredemo, arabujin ga ikite kurunde su yo
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Persians and their culture, the people
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ペルシャ人が、その文化、その人たちが
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perusha hito ga, sono bunka, sono hitotachi ga
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are not just names or some country on a map
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単なる名前とか、地図にこういう国があるという
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tannaru namae toka, chizu ni kou iu kuni ga aru toiu
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but rather they become more alive
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ことではなくて、もっと生きてくる
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koto dehanakute, motto ikiteku ru
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So my goal is not to be super fluent but
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だから目標は、非常にぺらぺらに…
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dakara mokuhyou wa, hijouni perapera ni
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Well I used to live in Japan for 9 years
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僕は日本に9年住んでいたんです
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boku wa nihon ni 9 nen sundeita ndesu
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so no matter how much I study Arabic
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だからいくらアラブ語を勉強しても
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dakara ikura arabu go o benkyou shite mo
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my Arabic won't be as fluent as my Japanese
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日本語ほど流暢には話さないですよ
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nihongo hodo ryūchou ni wa hanasanaide su yo
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But as an individual, I just want to know more
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ただ、ひとつの人間というか、同じ時期に
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tada, hito tsuno ningen toiuka, onaji jiki ni
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about other people and their culture who are living
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同じ地球に住んでる人間のそういう文化をもう少し
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onaji chikyū ni sunderu ningen nosou iu bunka o mou sukoshi
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on this same planet at the same time, so I enjoy learning languages
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知りたいということで、言葉を勉強するのは楽しみです
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shiritai toiu koto de, kotoba o benkyou suru no wa tanoshimi desu
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So learning a language means learning and
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言葉を勉強するということは、その国のことを知る
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kotoba o benkyou suru toiukotoha, sono kuni no koto o shiru
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getting to know the country and culture
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その文化を知るということになるということですね
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sono bunka o shiru toiu kotoninaru toiu koto desu ne
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That's right. You become a bit more closer to them
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そうです。そういう人たちに少し親しくなるんです
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soudesu. souiu hitotachi ni sukoshi shitashiku naru ndesu
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You become a bit closer - you don't know the culture deeply
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親しくなるんです、深くその文化は知らないです
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shitashiku naru ndesu, fukaku sono bunka wa shiranaidesu
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Those people have been living in their culture
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この国の人たちは小さい時からこの文化の中に
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kono kuni no hitotachi wa chīsai toki kara kono bunka no naka ni
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Text-7
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since they were little, like Japanese in Japan
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住んでいるから、日本人なら日本人
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sundeiru kara, nihonjin nara nihonjin
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Chinese in China, Persians...
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中国人なら中国人、ペルシャ人…
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chūgokujin nara chūgokujin, perusha hito
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But if you know the language, you get to be part of it a bit
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だけど、ちょっとだけ参加できる、言葉できると
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dakedo, chotto dake san ka dekiru, kotoba dekiru to
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So to learn new languages
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じゃあ、そういう新しい言葉を勉強するのに
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jā, souiu atarashī kotoba o benkyou suru noni
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age doesn't matter?
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歳は関係ないということですかね？
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sai wa kankeinai toiu koto desuka ne?
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Not at all! I will tell you, in my case
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全然！はっきり言いまして、今私の場合は
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zenzen! hakkiri īmashite, ima watakushinobāi wa
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the speed in which I learn a new language is
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新しい言葉を勉強する速度は50年前より
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atarashī kotoba o benkyou suru sokudo wa 50 nen mae yori
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faster now than 50 years ago - I'm much better now
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早いんですよ、前よりも良い、僕は
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hayai ndesu yo, mae yorimo yoi, boku wa
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I can study a lot more now. Why?
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今の方が勉強できます、なぜかと言うと
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ima no hou ga benkyou dekimasu, nazeka toiuto
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Because I have experience, confidence in how I learn languages
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経験がある、自信がある、どうやって勉強するか
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keiken ga aru, jishin ga aru, douyatte benkyou suru ka
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And my brain is more elastic
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そして、脳がもう少し弾力的になっています
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soshite, nou ga mou sukoshi danryokuteki ni natteimasu
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I know a lot of languages so it's more elastic
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たくさん言葉を知っているからもっと弾力的
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takusan kotoba o shitteiru kara motto danryokuteki
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For example, if you only know Japanese or English
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例えば、日本語しか知らない、英語しか知らない
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tatoeba, nihongo shi ka shiranai, eigo shi ka shiranai
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It's the only thing in your brain so when a new languages comes
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頭の中にそれしかない、だから新しい言葉に対して
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tou no naka ni sore shi kanai, dakara atarashī kotoba ni taishite
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your brain resists, like why do they say it this way?
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抵抗があるんですよ。どうしてこういう風に言うのか
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teikou ga aru ndesu yo. doushite kou iu fū ni iu noka
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This pronunciation sounds strange - there is resistance like that
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この発音はおかしいんじゃないかと、非常に抵抗がある
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kono hatsuon wa okashi inja naika to, hijouni teikou ga aru
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But if you know a lot of languages
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しかし、たくさんの言葉を知っていると
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shi kashi, takusan no kotoba o shitteiru to
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there is no resistance, like "Oh OK"
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別に抵抗はないです。ああ、そうですか
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betsuni teikou wa naidesu. ā, soudesu ka
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"Is that how they say it in this language?"
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ああ、こういう風に言うんですか、この言葉では
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ā, kou iu fū ni iu ndesu ka, kono kotoba deha
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"Fine, I'll say it like that."
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分かりました、真似するからいいですよ
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bun karimashita, mane suru karai i desu yo
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Text-8
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Yes, my brain might work more slowly than before
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で、頭が場合によって前より遅くなっているけれど
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de, tou ga bāiniyotte mae yori osoku natteiru keredo
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But it's no use worrying about that
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しょうがないんですよ、それを考えても
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shouganai ndesu yo, sore o kangaete mo
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People like yourself who have learned many languages
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Steveさんのようにたくさん語学を
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Steve san noyouni takusan gogaku o
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tend to want to develop
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習得されている方だと、例えば語学の教材とかを
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shūtoku sareteiru hou dato, tatoeba gogaku no kyouzai toka o
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language education materials
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作ろうとする方が結構多いと思いますが
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tsukurou tosuru hou ga kekkou ōi to omoimasu ga
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But in your case, you have developed a method and system
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Steveさんの場合は、メソッド・システムを
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Steve san no bāi wa, mesoddo shisutemu o
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and building a community around it
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開発されて確立されているということですが
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kaihatsu sarete kakuritsu sareteiru toiu koto desuga
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Why did you decide to develop a method and system?
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どうしてメソッド・システムになったんでしょうか？
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doushite mesoddo shisutemu ni natta nde shou ka?
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With language learning, there have been
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やはり言葉の勉強においては、革命的な要素が
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ya hari kotoba no benkyou ni oite wa, kakumeiteki na youso ga
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some revolutionary changes in the last 10 years
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いくつか最近、この10年で出てきています
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ikutsuka saikin, kono 10 nen de dete kiteimasu
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First thing is MP3. With audio, 50 years ago
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一つは、MP3。オーディオは、50年前に
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hitotsu wa, MP3. ōdio wa, 50 nen maeni
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when I learned Chinese, there was this open reel
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私が中国語を勉強した時に、大きなオープンリールの
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watashi ga chūgokugo o benkyou shita tokini, ōkina ōpunrīru no
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tape recorder that wasn't movable
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テープレコーダーがあったわけです、動かないもの
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tēpurekōdā ga atta wake desu, ugokanai mono
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You need to be sitting there in the room to listen
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座って部屋で聞くしかない
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suwatte heya de kiku shi kanai
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Now with just a smartphone
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今は、それこそスマートフォンで
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ima wa, sorekoso sumātofon de
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I have an extensive library in my smartphone
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ものすごい図書館を持っていますよ、スマートフォンで
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monosugoi toshokan o motteimasu yo, sumātofon de
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and MP3 and various texts
|
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MP3、そして、いろいろなテキスト
|
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MP3, soshite, iroiro na tekisuto
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Texts have been saved using our LingQ system
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テキストはもちろん、うちのLingQのシステムで 保存してあるわけです
|
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tekisuto wa mochiron, uchi no LingQ no shisutemu de hozon shite aru wake desu
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So you can take an incredible amount of materials
|
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だから、ものすごい数の言語の材料が
|
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dakara, monosugoi suu no gengo no zairyou ga
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with you in this small smartphone everywhere
|
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小さなスマートフォンで持って歩ける
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chīsana sumātofon de motte arukeru
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Text-9
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You can listen and read any time you want
|
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いつでも聞ける、いつでも読める
|
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itsu demo kikeru, itsu demo yomeru
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That's an amazing thing
|
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それはすごいんですよ
|
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sore ha su go i ndesu yo
|
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Plus, from the Internet, like Netflix and YouTube
|
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さらにインターネットでNetflixからYouTubeから
|
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sarani intānetto den etflix ka ra YouTube kara
|
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Newspaper and magazine are unlimited also
|
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新聞や雑誌や無限にある
|
|
shinbun ya zasshi ya mugen ni aru
|
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How do you use these materials effectively?
|
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それをいかに有効に利用するかというのが
|
|
sore o ikani yūkou ni riyou suru ka toiu no ga
|
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That's what our system is about
|
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我々のシステムですね
|
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wareware no shisutemu desu ne
|
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|
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But to be able to utilize these materials
|
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ただ、それまで、使えるまでにはやはり
|
|
tada, soremade, tsukaeru madeni haya hari
|
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|
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you need simple stories which
|
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ある程度簡単なストーリー、それはうちの
|
|
aruteido kantan na sutōrī, sore ha uchi no
|
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we also have on our Website
|
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ウェブサイトにもあるんですよ
|
|
webusaito ni mo aru ndesu yo
|
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|
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You listen repeatedly, like frequently used verbs
|
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たくさん繰り返していく、同じ頻度の高い動詞とか
|
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takusan kurikaeshite iku, onaji hindo no takai doushi toka
|
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Things like that which get used a lot
|
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そういうたくさん繰り返しているもの、それを最初なら
|
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souiu takusan kurikaeshiteiru mono, sore o saisho nara
|
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you would listen 30, 40 times
|
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30回も40回も聞くわけです
|
|
30 kai mo 40 kai mo kiku wake desu
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Not 30 times for one thing but
|
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一つのものを30回ではなくて
|
|
ichi tsuno monowo 30 kai dehanakute
|
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Step 1, 2, 3 then again step 1, 2, 3
|
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その一、その二、その三、また、その一、その二、その三
|
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sono ichi, sono ni, sono san, mata, sono ichi, sono ni, sono san
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You listen to it repeatedly then your brain starts to get used to it
|
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何回も何回も聞いて、そして脳が慣れてくる
|
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nankaimo nankaimo kīte, soshite nou ga nareteku ru
|
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Then the next step is more interesting content
|
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それから次の段階は、本当に面白い内容
|
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sorekara tsugi no dankai wa, hontouni omoshiroi naiyou
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like Netflix or audio books
|
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Netflixとか、オーディオブックとか
|
|
Netflix toka, ōdiobukku toka
|
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It's limitless
|
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いろいろ無限にあります
|
|
iroiro mugen ni arimasu
|
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|
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So to do the first stage of learning then
|
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そういう無限な材料を…最初の段階と
|
|
souiu mugen na zairyou o saisho no dankai to
|
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utilize the unlimited materials effectively
|
|
後はそういう無限な材料を利用するために
|
|
nochi wa souiu mugen na zairyou o riyou suru tameni
|
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|
|
Text-10
|
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we developed our system
|
|
うちのシステムを開発したわけです
|
|
uchi no shisutemu o kaihatsu shita wake desu
|
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|
|
But what have really been revolutionary
|
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だけど、一番革命的なのは
|
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dakedo, ichi ban kakumeiteki nano wa
|
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|
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are MP3 and smartphones
|
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MP3、スマートフォン
|
|
MP3, sumātofon
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You don't need a school or college
|
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学校はいらない、大学はいらない
|
|
gakkou hairanai, daigaku hairanai
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There are many Japanese who want to
|
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日本人で英語を勉強したいと思っている人は
|
|
nihonjin de eigo o benkyou shitai to omotteiru hito wa
|
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|
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be able to speak English but
|
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すごくいっぱいいると思うので
|
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sugoku ippai iru to omou node
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they find it hard to go to a language school
|
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仕事をしながら、例えば学校に通ったり
|
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shigoto o shi nagara, tatoeba gakkou ni tōttari
|
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while working or buy expensive materials so
|
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高い教材を買ったり、難しいなと思っている方も
|
|
takai kyouzai o kattari, muzukashī na to omotteiru hou mo
|
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|
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what you just said is
|
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多いと思うので、すごくやる気が沸いてくるような
|
|
ōi to omou node, sugoku yaruki ga waiteku ru youna
|
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very encouraging for a lot of people
|
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お話しだと思うんですけれども
|
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ohanashi dato omou ndesu keredomo
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So with your method, you first
|
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たぶんSteveさんのメソッドだと
|
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ta bu n Steve san no mesoddo dato
|
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|
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put it in through your ears then make rules in the brain
|
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とにかく耳からまず入れて、脳の方でルール作りをして
|
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tonikaku mimi kara mazu irete, nou no hou de rūru tsukuri woshite
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You develop understanding first like that
|
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そこから理解できるようになるということをまず するという感じだと思いますが
|
|
sokokara rikai dekiruyouninaru toiu koto o mazu suruto iu kanji dato omoimasu ga
|
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But if you want to use it for business for example
|
|
ビジネスとかで使いたいと思った時に
|
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bijinesu toka de tsukaitai to omotta tokini
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|
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after you develop understanding
|
|
実際、じゃあ、理解できましたというところで
|
|
jissai, jā, rikai dekimashita toiutokoro de
|
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how to become able to speak it
|
|
話せるようになるというところがもう一つ
|
|
hanaseru youninaru toiutokoro ga mou hitotsu
|
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|
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seems to me like the next step
|
|
先のステップかなと思うんですけど
|
|
saki no suteppu kana to omou ndesu kedo
|
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|
|
Do you have any advice on how you can practice speaking?
|
|
それを練習する方法というか、アドバイスはありますか？
|
|
sore o renshū suru houhou toiuka, adobaisu wa arimasu ka?
|
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|
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First, I think understanding is the most important
|
|
まず、理解度が一番だと思うんですよ
|
|
mazu, rikaido ga ichi ban dato omou ndesu yo
|
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|
|
That means vocabulary
|
|
それはいわゆる語彙ですよね、vocabularyが
|
|
sore ha iwa yuru goi desu yone, vocabulary ga
|
|
|
|
Text-11
|
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Passive vocabulary is the most essential
|
|
一番大切、これはもちろんパッシブなvocabulary
|
|
ichi ban taisetsu, kore ha mochiron passhibu na vocabulary
|
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|
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If you're a native speaker
|
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ネイティブスピーカーが、日本人なら日本人
|
|
neitibusupīkā ga, nihonjin nara nihonjin
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|
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like a 30 or 40 year old Japanese would have so much vocabulary
|
|
30歳、40歳、たくさんもうvocabulary持っている
|
|
30 sai, 40 sai, takusan mo u vocabulary motteiru
|
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|
and my vocabulary will never match
|
|
私はこの日本人ほどのvocabularyは
|
|
watashi wa kono nihonjin hodo no vocabulary wa
|
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|
|
the vocabulary of this person
|
|
持つことはあり得ないんですよ
|
|
motsu koto wa arienai ndesu yo
|
|
|
|
Because I've spent only 9 years in Japan
|
|
9年間しか日本に住んでいないから
|
|
9 nenkan shi ka nihon ni sundeinai kara
|
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|
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So I won't be able to use all the vocabulary
|
|
だからそれを全部は私は使えません
|
|
dakara sore o zenbu wa watashi wa tsukaemasen
|
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|
|
But at least, I need to be able to understand
|
|
しかし、少なくとも理解しなくてはならない
|
|
shi kashi, sukunakutomo rikai shinakute wa naranai
|
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|
|
Because whether it's in movies or
|
|
なぜかと言うと、映画なら映画、あるいは
|
|
nazeka toiuto, eiga nara eiga, aruiha
|
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|
|
even in business, different topics come up unrelated to business
|
|
実際、仕事の商売の話でもいろんな話が出てくるから
|
|
jissai, shigoto no shoubai no hana shi demo ironna hana shi ga detekuru kara
|
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|
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So if you can't understand, you can't talk
|
|
理解できないと話できないんですよ
|
|
rikai dekinai to hana shi dekinai ndesu yo
|
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|
|
If you read and listen a lot first
|
|
まず、たくさん読んで、たくさん聞いた場合
|
|
mazu, takusan yonde, takusan kīta bāi
|
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|
|
you will naturally be able to speak
|
|
自ずと話ができるようになります
|
|
onozuto hana shi ga dekiruyouninarimasu
|
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|
|
But the scariest thing that could happen is
|
|
だけど、一番の欠点は、一番の恐ろしいことは
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dakedo, ichi ban no ketten wa, ichi ban no osoroshī koto wa
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not being able to understand. So for example in business
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分からない、例えば、商売なら商売、相手が
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bun kara nai, tatoeba, shoubai nara shoubai, aite ga
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someone says something and you don't understand
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何か言うと、英語で、日本人は分からなかった
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nanika iu to, eigo de, nihonjin wa bun kara nakatta
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But you can't ask the other person to
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すみません、もう一度言ってくださいと
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sumimasen, mou ichi do ittekudasai to
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repeat himself all the time
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繰り返して言えないわけです
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kurikaeshite ienai wake desu
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So for your own protection also
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だからまず、自己防衛という意味でも
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dakara mazu, jikobouei toiu imi demo
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you need to raise the level of understanding a lot
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たくさん理解度を上げないとだめ
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takusan rikaido o agenai to dame
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Text-12
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That's what I think then after that
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そう私は思うんです。その後は
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sou watashi wa omou ndesu. sonoato wa
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to be able to speak well
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話しを、上手に話をするには
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hanashi o, jouzu ni hanashiwosuru ni wa
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you need to talk a lot
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たくさん話をしないといけないんですよ
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takusan hana shi o shinai to ikenai ndesu yo
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To talk a lot, you really shouldn't
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たくさん話をするためには、自分のミスを
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takusan hanashiwosuru tameni wa, jibun no misu o
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worry so much about making mistakes
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そんなに気にしない方がいいですよ
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sonnani kinishinai hougaī desu yo
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If you worry, you won't speak right?
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もし心配するならば、たくさん話をしないでしょ
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moshi shinpai suruna raba, takusan hana shi o shinaide sho
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So don't be afraid and
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だから、そういうことを恐れずに
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dakara, souiu koto o osore zuni
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just speak
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とにかく話しをしてください
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tonikaku hanashi woshite kudasai
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It won't get worse
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自ずと…悪くならないないんですよ
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onozuto warukunaranai nai ndesu yo
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It will gradually get better and better
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少しずつ、少しずつ良くなります
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sukoshizutsu, sukoshizutsu yoku nari masu
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And while you're talking, you will understand
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そして、特に話をしている時に、どこがうまく
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soshite, tokuni hana shi woshite iru tokini, doko ga umaku
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what kind of things you had a hard time saying
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言えなかったというのを自分が分かるわけです
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ienakatta toiu no o jibun ga bun karu wake desu
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then next time, when you listen or read
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そして、今度、次の時に、聞いたり読んだりした時に
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soshite, kondo, tsugi no tokini, kītari yondari shita tokini
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you pay attention to that and you will learn how to say
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それに注意して、なるほどこの前は言えなかったけど
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soreni chūi shite, naruhodo kono mae wa ienakatta kedo
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things that you couldn't before
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こういう風に言うんだ、と
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kou iu fū ni iu nda, to
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It will gradually get better and better
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少しずつ、少しずつ良くなるんですよね
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sukoshizutsu, sukoshizutsu yokunaru ndesu yone
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Listening is critical
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リスニングが非常に大切
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risuningu ga hijouni taisetsu
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You listened and understood only half of it
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聞いたら半分しか分からなかった
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kītara hanbun shi ka bun kara nakatta
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then next you read
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その次の段階は、読みます、読む
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sono tsugi no dankai wa, yomimasu, yomu
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You keep doing that and your brain gets used to it
|
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そういうことをやりながら、脳が少しずつ慣れてくる
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souiu koto o yari nagara, nou ga sukoshizutsu nareteku ru
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Text-13
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Of course, it doesn't mean you can ignore grammar all together
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もちろん、文法というのも無視するわけじゃない
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mochiron, bunpou toiunomo mushi suru wakejanai
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But if you don't have enough experience
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ただ、十分な経験がないと、その言葉に対する
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tada, jū bun na keiken gana ito, sono kotoba ni taisuru
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If you don't recognize the language enough, learning
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十分な認識がないと、文法の説明が
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jū bun na ninshiki gana ito, bunpou no setsumei ga
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grammar has little impact
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あまり影響がないんですよ
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amari eikyou gana i ndesu yo
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If you have enough experience
|
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十分な経験があるならば
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jū bun na keiken ga aruna raba
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points you didn't realize before
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今まで気が付かなかった点が、文法の説明に
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imamade kigatsukanakatta ten ga, bunpou no setsumei ni
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you will recognize and understand
|
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こういうことですよ、ああ、なるほど！と
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kou iu koto desu yo, ā, naruhodo! to
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With things that are related to what you experienced
|
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既に経験したあるものと関係があるならば
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sudeni keiken shita aru mono to kankei ga aruna raba
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you can recognize and understand more
|
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僕は、ああ、なるほど、となるわけです
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boku wa, ā, naruhodo, tonaru wake desu
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So rather than studying grammar then talk
|
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だから、文法を勉強してから話しをするのではなく
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dakara, bunpou o benkyou shite kara hanashi o suru no dehanaku
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Read a lot, listen a lot and speak a lot, making lots of mistakes
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たくさん読んだり聞いたり話をして、ミスもたくさん
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takusan yondari kītari hana shi woshite, misu mo takusan
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then take a look at grammar
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起こして、それから文法をちょっと見て
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okoshite, sorekara bunpou o chotto mite
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then again listen and speak - that should be the order
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また聞いたり、話したり、そういう順番です
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mata kītari, hanashitari, souiu junban desu
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Don't be afraid to make mistakes and just speak
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ミスは恐れずに、just 話しする
|
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misu wa osore zuni, just hanashi suru
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That's the way
|
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そういうことですね
|
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souiu koto desu ne
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You really need to believe in yourself
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自分を信じて、信じないとだめなんですよ
|
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jibun o shinjite, shinjinai to dame nandesu yo
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For example, Russian has a very complicated grammar
|
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例えば、ロシア語は文法が非常に複雑です
|
|
tatoeba, roshiago wa bunpou ga hijouni fukuzatsu desu
|
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A lot more complicated than English or Japanese
|
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英語、日本語よりもずっと複雑
|
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eigo, nihongo yorimo zutto fukuzatsu
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So when I speak Russian, I make mistakes
|
|
僕がロシア語を話す時にミスがあるんですよ
|
|
boku ga roshiago o hanasu tokini misu ga aru ndesu yo
|
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If I think before I talk, like this is this
|
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もし、話しする前にいつも、これはこうだ
|
|
moshi, hanashi suru maeni itsu mo, kore ha kou da
|
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|
|
Text-14
|
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or is this this?
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あるいは、こうですか、こうですか、考えて
|
|
aruiha, kou desuka, kou desuka, kangaete
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If you think first and talk, it doesn't work
|
|
考えてから話しをしようとすれば無理ですよ
|
|
kangaete kara hanashi o shiyoutosureba muri desu yo
|
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I just say it, I say it with mistakes
|
|
もう言いますよ、ミスを含めて言います
|
|
mou īmasu yo, misu o fukumete īmasu
|
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|
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Then I listen to what the other person is saying
|
|
少しずつ相手の言う話を聞いて
|
|
sukoshizutsu aite no iu hanashi o kīte
|
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|
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and slowly get better
|
|
少しずつ良くなります
|
|
sukoshizutsu yoku nari masu
|
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|
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Yes, your teacher can correct you and you can learn that way
|
|
先生が訂正したために良くなるのもあるかもしれない
|
|
sensei ga teisei shita tameni yokunaru no mo aru kamoshirenai
|
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|
|
but it's impossible for a teacher to correct all your mistakes
|
|
それよりも…全部のミスを先生が訂正するのは無理
|
|
soreyori mo zenbu no misu o sensei ga teisei suru no wa muri
|
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|
|
Rather, you yourself gradually shift yourself to the right direction
|
|
自分が少しずつ、少しずつ正しい方向に移る
|
|
jibun ga sukoshizutsu, sukoshizutsu tadashī houkou ni utsuru
|
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|
|
I feel that learning English has become
|
|
まず、英語の学習というのは
|
|
mazu, eigo no gakushū toiunoha
|
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|
|
somewhat like obligation
|
|
一つの義務になっている
|
|
hitotsu no gimu ni natteiru
|
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|
|
That poses a big obstacle
|
|
それは、非常にやりにくい
|
|
sore ha, hijouni yarinikui
|
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|
|
If you try to learn something out of obligation
|
|
義務的に、これといった一つのものを
|
|
gimuteki ni, koretoitta ichi tsuno monowo
|
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|
|
then your brain will resist
|
|
勉強しようというのが、脳がが抵抗するんです
|
|
benkyou shiyou toiu no ga, nou gaga teikou suru ndesu
|
|
|
|
Then if you try to learn it over and over again
|
|
そして、同じものを繰り返して勉強しようと思えば
|
|
soshite, onaji monowo kurikaeshite benkyou shiyou to omoeba
|
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|
|
your productivity will keep going down
|
|
能率が下がるばかりなんです
|
|
nouritsu ga sagaru bakari nandesu
|
|
|
|
Your brain needs repetition yes, but it also needs new things
|
|
脳が、繰り返しは必要ですが、新しいものも必要
|
|
nou ga, kurikaeshi wa hitsuyou desuga, atarashīmono mo hitsuyou
|
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|
|
You need both - repetition and novelty
|
|
両方いるんですよ、繰り返しと新しいもの
|
|
ryouhou iru ndesu yo, kurikaeshi to atarashīmono
|
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|
|
And have fun! To study English, read different things and listen to different things
|
|
そして、楽しく！英語の勉強においても たくさんいろいろなものを読んだり聞いたり
|
|
soshite, tanoshiku! eigo no benkyou ni oite mo takusan iroiro na monowo yondari kītari
|
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|
|
Not the same books for TOEIC or TOEFL
|
|
同じTOEIC、TOEFLの準備とか
|
|
dou ji TOEIC, TOEFL no junbi toka
|
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|
|
find something that you can enjoy
|
|
ああいうものではなくて、楽しくいろいろなものを
|
|
āiu mono dehanakute, tanoshiku iroiro na monowo
|
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|
|
Text-15
|
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and have fun! That's one thing
|
|
楽しむ！それが一つと
|
|
tanoshimu! sorega hitotsu to
|
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|
|
The other thing is
|
|
もう一つは、場合によっては
|
|
mou hitotsu wa, bāiniyotte wa
|
|
|
|
if you've studied English for 10 years and see no progress
|
|
英語も10年も勉強してなかなか進歩がない
|
|
eigo mo 10 nen mo benkyou shite nakanaka shinpo gana i
|
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|
|
go ahead and learn some Spanish
|
|
ならば、どうぞスペイン語をやってみてください
|
|
naraba, douzo supeingo o yattemitekudasai
|
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|
|
or Chinese or Korean
|
|
中国語を、韓国語をやってみてください
|
|
chūgokugo o, kankokugo o yattemitekudasai
|
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|
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That's novelty for the brain
|
|
それが脳になって、noveltyなんですよね
|
|
sorega nou ni natte, novelty nandesu yone
|
|
|
|
Brain loves new things
|
|
新しいもの、脳は新しいものが好きなんですよ
|
|
atarashīmono, nou wa atarashīmono ga suki nandesu yo
|
|
|
|
So with the new input, your brain becomes more elastic
|
|
それによって脳がもうちょっと弾力性が出てくる
|
|
soreni yotte nou ga mou chotto danryokusei ga detekuru
|
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|
|
If you do that, you don't forget what you've learned
|
|
そういうことをすれば、今まで勉強した英語は
|
|
souiu koto o sureba, imamade benkyou shita eigo wa
|
|
|
|
in terms of English
|
|
忘れることはないんです
|
|
wasureru kotohanai ndesu
|
|
|
|
Then when you come back to learning English
|
|
また英語に戻ってきた時に、すぐ今までよりも
|
|
mata eigo ni modotte kita tokini, sugu imamade yorimo
|
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|
|
it will get better. I've had that experience
|
|
もっと良くなる。僕もそういう経験があります
|
|
motto yokunaru. boku mosou iu keiken ga arimasu
|
|
|
|
I started learning a language, stopped and studied other languages
|
|
一つの言葉を勉強して、止めて、第2、第3を
|
|
hitotsu no kotoba o benkyou shite, tomete, dai 2, dai 3 o
|
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|
|
then when I came back to the original language, it got better
|
|
やって元の言葉に戻ったら、前よりも良くなった
|
|
yatte moto no kotoba ni modottara, mae yorimo yoku natta
|
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|
|
So studying a language is like exploration
|
|
だから言葉の勉強というのは一つのexploration
|
|
dakara kotoba no benkyou toiunoha hitotsu no exploration
|
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|
|
It's something to enjoy, not obligation
|
|
楽しみ、義務じゃなくて
|
|
tanoshimi, gimu janakute
|
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|
|
It's not for a test or exam
|
|
テストの、試験のためじゃなくて
|
|
tesuto no, shiken no tame janakute
|
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|
|
You will learn much faster that way
|
|
その方が逆に早く勉強できます
|
|
sonokata ga gyakuni hayaku benkyou dekimasu
|
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|
|
Lastly, you are building a community around
|
|
最後に、今Steveさんは、オンラインだったり
|
|
saigo ni, ima Steve san wa, onrain datta ri
|
|
|
|
your online platform and YouTube
|
|
YouTubeで語学を習得したいという人の
|
|
YouTube de gogaku o shūtoku shitai toiu hito no
|
|
|
|
Text-16
|
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with people who want to learn languages
|
|
コミュニティを作るということをされていますが
|
|
komyuniti o tsukuru toiu koto o sareteimasu ga
|
|
|
|
What do you want to do with this community?
|
|
そのコミュニティをどういうコミュニティに
|
|
sono komyuniti o douiu komyuniti ni
|
|
|
|
What do you envision for the future
|
|
していきたいか、というか、ビジョンを
|
|
shitei kitai ka, toiuka, bijon o
|
|
|
|
of this community?
|
|
描いていらっしゃるのでしょうか？
|
|
egaitei rassharu node shou ka?
|
|
|
|
Learning a language and knowing different languages
|
|
やはり言葉の勉強、いくつかの言葉ができると
|
|
ya hari kotoba no benkyou, ikutsuka no kotoba ga dekiru to
|
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|
|
is a lot of fun and it makes your life rich
|
|
非常に楽しんだ、と。生活が豊富になる
|
|
hijouni tanoshinda, to. seikatsu ga houfu ni naru
|
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|
|
That's my experience
|
|
という風に私の経験ですね
|
|
toiu fū ni watashi no keiken desu ne
|
|
|
|
So I want more people to experience that
|
|
そういうことを他の人にも知ってほしいわけです
|
|
souiu koto o hoka no hito ni mo shitte hoshī wake desu
|
|
|
|
For Japanese, not just English but
|
|
日本の場合ですと、英語だけではなくて
|
|
nihon no bāi desu to, eigo dake dehanakute
|
|
|
|
learning different languages like Chinese and Spanish
|
|
中国語やスペイン語や、いろいろな言葉を勉強
|
|
chūgokugo ya supeingo ya, iroiro na kotoba o benkyou
|
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|
|
will give you more joy
|
|
すればなおさらいいですよ、と
|
|
sureba naosara ī desu yo, to
|
|
|
|
I want to share the joy I have experienced
|
|
それは、僕にとっても楽しいこと、だから他の人にも
|
|
sore ha, boku ni tottemo tanoshī koto, dakara hoka no hito ni mo
|
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|
|
with other people
|
|
そういう風に分かってもらえれば
|
|
souiu fū ni bun katte moraereba
|
|
|
|
There are many communities
|
|
いろんなコミュニティがありますよ
|
|
ironna komyuniti ga arimasu yo
|
|
|
|
There is even a community for polyglots
|
|
いわゆるpoliglotですね、たくさんの言葉を話せる
|
|
iwa yuru poliglot desu ne, takusan no kotoba o hanaseru
|
|
|
|
people who speak multi languages
|
|
人たちのコミュニティがあるんですよ
|
|
hitotachi no komyuniti ga aru ndesu yo
|
|
|
|
There are conferences also
|
|
会議が時々あります。例えば、福岡にそういう
|
|
kaigi ga tokidoki arimasu. tatoeba, fukuoka ni souiu
|
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|
|
Actually there was one in Fukuoka last October
|
|
会議が10月にありました、はい
|
|
kaigi ga 10 tsuki ni arimashita, hai
|
|
|
|
Interesting thing is, compared to 50 years ago
|
|
非常に面白いことに、例えば50年前に比べて今
|
|
hijouni omoshiroi koto ni, tatoeba 50 nen maeni kurabete ima
|
|
|
|
now it's so easy to develop connections like you
|
|
なつきさんのように、YouTubeのコミュニティもある
|
|
natsuki san noyouni, YouTube no komyuniti mo aru
|
|
|
|
Text-17
|
|
have a YouTube community and can give advice on healthy life
|
|
healthy lifeのいろいろなアドバイスもできるし
|
|
healthy life no iroiro na adobaisu mo dekiru shi
|
|
|
|
and are making connections
|
|
コネクションができます
|
|
konekushon ga dekimasu
|
|
|
|
That becomes a community for not just Japanese but
|
|
これは、日本語のできる人たち、日本人
|
|
kore ha, nihongo node kiru hitotachi, nihonjin
|
|
|
|
those who are studying Japanese
|
|
あるいは、日本語を勉強している人たちの やはりコミュニティができる
|
|
aruiha, nihongo o benkyou shiteiru hitotachi no ya hari komyuniti ga dekiru
|
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It's fun to get connected with these people right?
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楽しいでしょ？そういういろいろな人とコネクトすると
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tanoshī desho? souiu iroiro na hito to konekuto suruto
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In my case, I connect with people
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僕の場合は、言葉の勉強に関して
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boku no bāi wa, kotoba no benkyou ni kanshite
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on learning languages
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そういう人たちとコネクトする
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souiu hitotachi to konekuto suru
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I make 2 videos weekly
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ビデオを毎週2回作る
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bideo o maishū 2 kai tsukuru
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2 videos in English and 1 in Japanese
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英語は2回、日本語は1回ですね
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eigo wa 2 kai, nihongo wa 1 kai desu ne
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Actually bi-weekly for Japanese
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いや、日本語は二週間に1回だった
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iya, nihongo wa ni shūkan ni 1 kai datta
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People come and leave comments
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いろんな人もコメントする、僕もいつも
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ironna hito mo komento suru, boku mo itsu mo
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And I was just jogging and thinking about what to say in
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さっきジョギングしていて、次のビデオは何を
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sakki jogingu shiteite, tsugi no bideo wa nan o
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my next video. It's so much fun!
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言おうかと、楽しいですよ！楽しいですよ
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iou ka to, tanoshīdesu yo! tanoshīdesu yo
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Of course, I have a platform called LingQ
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もちろん、LingQというプラットフォームがありますから
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mochiron, LingQ toiu purattofōmu ga arimasu kara
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and employ 12 people including programmers
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12人も勤めています、プログラマーを始め
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12 hito mo tsutometeimasu, puroguramā o hajime
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graphic designers and others
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いろいろな、グラフィックスとかいろいろあるから
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iroiro na, gurafiskusu toka iroiro aru kara
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So we need to maintain a certain number of members
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ある程度の数のメンバーが必要なんですよね
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aruteido no suu no menbā ga hitsuyou nandesu yone
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to sustain the business because
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収入が必要ですね、それを維持するためには
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shūnyū ga hitsuyou desu ne, sore o iji suru tameni wa
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we want to provide the best we can
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できるだけいいものにしたいわけです
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dekirudake ī mono ni shitai wake desu
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I also have many new ideas I want to implement
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いろいろな新しいアイディアもありますけれども
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iroiro na atarashī aidia mo arimasu keredomo
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Text-18
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If you think about the world we live in
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それもやはり我々の世の中もそうなんです
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soremo ya hari wareware no yononaka mosou nandesu
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Whether it's computer I use everyday
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私が毎日使っているコンピューターや何でも
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watashi ga mainichi tsukatteiru konpyūtā ya nandemo
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or food, someone out there is making it for me
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あるいは食べ物、誰か、中国人が作って僕のために
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aruiha tabemono, dareka, chūgokujin ga tsukutte boku no tameni
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Chinese or maybe a Mexican is making an orange for me
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あるいはメキシコ人がオレンジを作っているかも
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aruiha mekishikojin ga orenji o tsukutteiru kamo
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Our world is connected with people like that
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我々の世界はそういういろいろな人たちが
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wareware no sekai wa souiu iroiro na hitotachi ga
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Yes, you can say it's for business but
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それが商売と言えば商売ですけれども
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sorega shoubai toieba shoubai desu keredomo
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It doesn't change the fact that different people are
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やはりいろいろな人たちが我々の知らない人のために
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ya hari iroiro na hitotachi ga wareware no shiranai hito no tameni
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making different things for us without us knowing it
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いろいろなものを作ってくれているわけです
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iroiro na monowo tsukutteku reteiru wake desu
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That's a fun thing for me
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それは、僕には楽しいことです
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sore ha, boku ni wa tanoshī koto desu
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I find such a world fun and interesting
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楽しいことだと思うんです。時々みんな
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tanoshī koto dato omou ndesu. tokidoki minna
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Sometimes people say you should only use local things
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地元のものしか使うべきではない！とか
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jimoto no mono shi ka tsukau bekidehanai! toka
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But that's impossible
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それは無理ですよ、無理です
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sore ha muri desu yo, muri desu
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There are different people, products, supplies in this world
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世界中のいろいろな人間、品物、供給
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sekaijū no iroiro na ningen, shinamono, kyoukyū
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and that's how it works in this 21st century
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あるんです、21世紀はそういう世紀ですから
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aru ndesu, 21 seiki wa souiu seiki desukara
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so you use that and enjoy
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だから、それを十分に利用して楽しむ
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dakara, sore o jū bun ni riyou shite tanoshimu
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That's my goal and purpose
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のが僕の目標、目的ですね
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no ga boku no mokuhyou, mokuteki desu ne
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So today, I interviewed Steve who speaks 20 languages
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ということで今日は、20か国語を話される
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toiu koto de konnichiha, 20 kakokugo o hanasareru
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how an effective way to learn a language
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Steveさんに、どうやって言葉を習得するのがいいのか
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Steve san ni, douyatte kotoba o shūtoku suru nogai i noka
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and his view on how learning languages can
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語学を習得することで自分の生活を豊かにしたり
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gogaku o shūtoku suru koto de jibun no seikatsu o yutaka ni shitari
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give you joy and make your life more fulfilling
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元気に楽しく過ごせるかということについて お話しをお伺いしました
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genki ni tanoshiku sugoseru ka toiu koto ni tsuite ohanashi o oukagai shimashita
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Text-19
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Thank you so much Steve!
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Steveさん、どうもありがとうございました
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Steve san, doumoarigatou go zai mashi ta
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Pleasure is mine! Thank you!
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いえ、こちらこそどうもありがとうございました
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ie, kochirakoso doumoarigatou go zai mashi ta
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See you next time! See you next time! Sayonara!
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See you next time! —See you next time!さようなら！
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See you next time! —See you next time! sayounara!
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Hope you enjoyed the video!
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いかがだったでしょうか
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ikaga datta deshouka
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Today, I interviewed Steve Kaufmann
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今日は、日本語を含めて20か国語を話される
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konnichiha, nihongo o fukumete 20 kakokugo o hanasareru
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who speaks 20 languages including Japanese
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Steve Kaufmannさんに、仕事のためだけではなく
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Steve Kaufmann san ni, shigoto no tame dake dehanaku
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on learning languages not just for work
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人生を楽しむための語学学習のすすめについて
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jinsei o tanoshimu tame no gogakugakushū nosu sume ni tsuite
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but for a fulfilling life
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語っていただきました
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katatteita dakimashita
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Steve has kindly given us a special offer for the viewers of this video
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今回、Steveさんが運営されている語学学習の
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konkai, Steve san ga unei sareteiru gogakugakushū no
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and you can get the annual premium membership for
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オンラインコミュニティ、LingQの年間プレミアム
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onrain komyuniti, LingQ no nenkan puremiamu
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Steve's language learning platform, LingQ, at 35% discount
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メンバーシップが35％オフになるスペシャルオファーを
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menbāshippu ga 35％ofu ni naru supesharu ofā o
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You can follow the link in the description box below to sign up
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いただきましたので、詳細は概要欄の
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itadakimashita node, shousai wa gaiyou ran no
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and get your special offer
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リンクをご覧ください
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rinku o gorankudasai
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Also, on March 17, Steve will be in Tokyo
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そして、来月3月17日に、Steveさんが来日
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soshite, raigetsu 3 tsuki 17 hi ni, Steve san ga rainichi
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so I'm hosting a meetup where
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されますので、Steveさんを囲みながら
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saremasu node, Steve san o kakomi nagara
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we have dinner with Steve
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お食事をする会、ミートアップを開催することに
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o shokuji o suru kai, mīto appu o kaisai suru koto ni
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The details on this meetup is also
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なりました。こちらも詳細については
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nari mashi ta. kochira mo shousai ni tsuiteha
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in the description box below
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概要欄のリンクをご覧ください
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gaiyou ran no rinku o gorankudasai
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Seats are limited so please sign up early!
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お席に限りがありますので、お申し込みはお早目に！
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o seki ni kagiri ga arimasu node, o moushikomi wa o hayameni!
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See you next month in Tokyo! Bye!
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See you next month in Tokyo! Bye!
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See you next month in Tokyo! Bye!
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